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Hi everyone:

What is the grainless film in super 8.

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I wouldn't say ther's any grainless Super 8 film - but the least grainy would have to be K40 when shot correctly - especially outdoors in lots of sunlight.

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Grainless film would be blank. The grains are what make up the image, much like pixels make up the image on video.
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Please dont fall into the" grain is bad" catagory. K-40 has always been practically grainless when I have shot it,clear ,crisp beautiful pictures.But remember if you dont know how to shoot K-40 she will ruin all your footage.Love her but you better treat her right or you'll be sorrrrrrrrry!
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Thank's to all of you for the advice, Merry Chritsmas
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Post by Mikael »

Well, the one Super8 film with the smallest grain of them all, (if it wasn´t the K25,) might have been Kodachrome II. I have a roll of the stuff at my place which is just unbelievable. A big difference compared to our present K40. IMHO of course.
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I'd like to see an image of Kodachrome II. I've always wondered what the quality was like. I may have some in my basement, I've got loads of home movies from 1948 to 1983, I just never have gotten through all of them.
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Post by thebrowniecameraguy »

KII datewise would be about 1960-1975, Super 8 was realesed on Kodachrome II. The images are much much brighter inside and outside than K40 I think.

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KII process was even worse than K-40.. Film is like food, the better it tastes, the more unhealthy it is :P

I think KII was processed with agent orange and mercury.
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I actually think grain is good - for the right project etc the texture can add heaps and be truly beautiful

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Jeez I just got K-II off of ebay deal, that means I can still have it processed though even though its from the 70's and I have no idea how it was really stored....
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Hmm... I believe the KII can only be processed as BW neg film these days:

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Old Kodachrome II Films (KA 464, KA 459, KII, and similar)
that required the old Process K-12:

Kodak's agreement with the EPA was that they would discontinue offering processing and chemistry availability within 10 years after they upgraded the process from Process K-12 (discontinued) to Process K-14 (current) in late 1973/74. There hasn't been any Color processing for these old films for over 20 years.

-- HOWEVER, these films can be processed to a Black & White NEGATIVE only. This is expensive, and most of the time the quality is terrible, but in about 50% of the time there are images for Super 8mm films. DOUBLE 8mm films often have more fogging damage mainly since the films are on spools and it is exagerated fogging from the time of use, from people handling the film over the years, or from film sitting in a camera that has been played with and opened from time to time over the many years. DOUBLE 8mm films have about a 25% to 50% chance of anything coming out on the films. ONLY consider having old films processed that were filmed years ago to try and preserve precious family memories. DO NOT bother using old Kodachrome II films, since it just isn't worth the bother and cost, considering the poor results.

--- Films processed as a BLACK & WHITE Negative can be electronically reversed back to a viewable positive image upon transfer to videotape. There are only two labs in the U.S.A. that offer processing for these old films: Plattsburgh Photographic Services and Rocky Mountain Film Laboratory......
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An unused KII cart/package is still a great collectors piece.
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Post by kentbulza »

I think Vision2 100T and EXR 50D from Pro 8 probably have finer grain than K40. Of course if you're going to project it, you'll pick up grain on the print which will negate the advantage v.v. K40.
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