What is the difference between Nizo Pro and 801 Macro

Post by **Chinese Belle** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:34 pm

I am wondering what is the difference between the 2 camera.

Thanks in advance

Website · Post by **Andersens Tears** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:37 pm

The Pro has a double lens coating and runs at 25fps instead of 24fps(801 macro) and the Pro needs no extra cells for the light meter.

They are the three major differences - price wise - you'd be better off getting a good 801 Macro and psending the extra cash on stock.

Jamie

Post by **Chinese Belle** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:39 pm

Nice!

I'm sure the double coating makes a difference but probably not enough for me. I had a Pro once (it was with crystal sync too!) but broke.

I was wondering if 801 Macro is a good enough replacement.

thanks again!

Post by **rmichel** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:44 pm

801 is basically obsolete because the light meter mercury battery was banned. You can find batteries but its difficult. The Professional does not have this problem.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:49 pm

"all" nizos listed incl features
http://www.merzbarn.com/Specification_c ... _chart.htm

Post by aj » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:00 pm

rmichel wrote:801 is basically obsolete because the light meter mercury battery was banned. You can find batteries but its difficult. The Professional does not have this problem.

You are taking this too serious. Obsolete because of lack of batteries? You can easily find weincell which are good and last much longer than advertised. Also you can easily use the cheap alkaline 1.5v. The difference in exposure is hardly noticed.

Post by aj » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:00 pm

repeat post, somehow

Post by **Chinese Belle** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:06 pm

thank you!!

Post by **T-Scan** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:00 pm

rmichel wrote:801 is basically obsolete because the light meter mercury battery was banned. You can find batteries but its difficult. The Professional does not have this problem.

Spectra sells the Wein cell batteries, and they are tons on ebay. They have always worked perfectly in my Nizo and last a long time.

Post by **rmichel** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:25 am

I had both nizos, yes, the zinc/air do work but a tendency do die very quickly. and for the 1.5v you need to compensate your exposure, which sucks. I order some mercury cells once from hong kong. I understand these arguments exist in previous threads. Its a personal preference, I myself rather not deal with these batteries, I'll leave it at that.

Post by **Blue Audio Visual** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:45 am

The other very important difference that no one has mentioned so far is that the tripod mount position is different on the two cameras, and much better on the Pro.

On the 801 the tripod bush is at the base of the handle when it is pointing downwards in the shooting position, an unfortunate effect of which is that the camera can be a bit wobbly when mounted.

The pro has a bushing in the same position, but also has another one on the base of the camera body itself, allowing you to mount it on the tripod with the handle folded back (the battery connection is still active in that position on the Pro). This is much more secure as it is considerably closer to the centre of gravity of the camera body.

I have neither of these two models in front of me, but as far as I recall this is correct.

Bart

Website · Post by **Andersens Tears** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:33 pm

Blue Audio Visual wrote:The other very important difference that no one has mentioned so far is that the tripod mount position is different on the two cameras, and much better on the Pro.

On the 801 the tripod bush is at the base of the handle when it is pointing downwards in the shooting position, an unfortunate effect of which is that the camera can be a bit wobbly when mounted.

The pro has a bushing in the same position, but also has another one on the base of the camera body itself, allowing you to mount it on the tripod with the handle folded back (the battery connection is still active in that position on the Pro). This is much more secure as it is considerably closer to the centre of gravity of the camera body.

I have neither of these two models in front of me, but as far as I recall this is correct.

Bart

... Overlooked to mention that as my 801 Macro has the tripod mount under the grip too... a mod done with an original Nizo Tripod mount kit. These mod kits are available from time to time.

Hey, isn't someone offering a mod on these cameras to convert the light meter power input to come from the batteries for the motor etc?

Anyone know?

Jamie

Post by **Chinese Belle** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:58 pm

Yea, I have seen people offering mods to make the meter pull power from the regular battery case.

Post by **ossioskari** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:19 pm

the batteries are a pain, agreed.

somehow i was able to use up my new weincells by shooting just 5 or six carts last year. got them locked in my nizo s56 the whole time, which was a bad idea i guess (no contact to air). if you got the option to get your hands on a pro, do it. saves the hassle. and the batteries are quite expensive as well, like $9 a piece in B&H photo (this i being a student, broke).

Post by aj » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:44 pm

ossioskari wrote:the batteries are a pain, agreed.

somehow i was able to use up my new weincells by shooting just 5 or six carts last year. got them locked in my nizo s56 the whole time, which was a bad idea i guess (no contact to air). if you got the option to get your hands on a pro, do it. saves the hassle. and the batteries are quite expensive as well, like $9 a piece in B&H photo (this i being a student, broke).

I you re-expose them to air they will start up again. If that was the problem. Possibly you forgot to switch off the metering system? Wears out any battery quick.

Euro 6 for two is more likely the EU price. Who buys batteries from USA while in Europe? Use Alkalines at Euro 3 for two and correct for the overvoltage if you can see the difference...