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I am curious to know if anyone got any World Cup footage in Germany?
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I was tempted to carry in my 4008 to the Ger-Portugal 3place match, but chickened out.

No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it. The thing is, the silly cam does not look like what security people recognize as photo equipment.
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sophocle wrote:I was tempted to carry in my 4008 to the Ger-Portugal 3place match, but chickened out.

No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it. The thing is, the silly cam does not look like what security people recognize as photo equipment.
I brought my Tower T-185 to a Los Angeles Dodgers game for Independance Day. The security guard let me through after checking my camera bag and going through a metal detector. no problems. no questions.
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sophocle wrote:No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it.
That’s surprising. My cousins in Hamburg say terrorisim in Germany is a very real threat.
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sophocle wrote:I was tempted to carry in my 4008 to the Ger-Portugal 3place match, but chickened out.

No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it. The thing is, the silly cam does not look like what security people recognize as photo equipment.
Why would it be forbidden to take a camera of whatever kind to a Worldcup game. Tripods would be of more consideration as one might use the leg points as weapon when things get nasty when the score develops the wrong way or something like that. :)
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Why would it be forbidden to take a camera of whatever kind to a Worldcup game. Tripods would be of more consideration as one might use the leg points as weapon when things get nasty when the score develops the wrong way or something like that.
If the camera is weird looking like the 4008 would Joe Securityguard recognize it as a camera or be suspicious?

Say that the camera is metal and heavy enough, why couldn't the camera be used as a weapon?
If you through the 6-66 lens on the 4008 and hit someone in the head with it I’m sure they will get hurt.


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aj wrote:
sophocle wrote:I was tempted to carry in my 4008 to the Ger-Portugal 3place match, but chickened out.

No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it. The thing is, the silly cam does not look like what security people recognize as photo equipment.
Why would it be forbidden to take a camera of whatever kind to a Worldcup game. Tripods would be of more consideration as one might use the leg points as weapon when things get nasty when the score develops the wrong way or something like that. :)
Yeah, but also a 4008 can be useful as a heavy weapon :twisted:


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Rusty wrote:
sophocle wrote:No one checked us at all, so I should have brought it.
That’s surprising. My cousins in Hamburg say terrorisim in Germany is a very real threat.
depends on how you look at it..

during all my time here (about 8 years), i have yet to hear about a single dead from a terroristic action...
in the same time, some 50'000 people died in car accidents or close to 1'000'000 from smoking.

terrorism draws it's power from the fear, and the media is very good at spreading it even if there's no real danger.

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I got told off for taking my camera to my local speedway, but that was because the rights were owned by Sky Television and so video & photography was forbidden.

i can imagine the World Cup rights would be owned by FIFA so it may be more to do with television rights than terrorism.
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hellesdonfilms wrote:I got told off for taking my camera to my local speedway, but that was because the rights were owned by Sky Television and so video & photography was forbidden.

i can imagine the World Cup rights would be owned by FIFA so it may be more to do with television rights than terrorism.
When watching television you can see flashes going of all the time. One may expect a videocamera (or mobile phone) with every camera. Or even more. It is almost impossible to keep private cameras out with such events. If it were rightful which it isn't.
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during all my time here (about 8 years), i have yet to hear about a single dead from a terroristic action...
in the same time, some 50'000 people died in car accidents or close to 1'000'000 from smoking.
Had German police not arrested the Strasbourg Christmas market bombers one day before their prepared attacks there would have been 100's and 100's of deaths. Public opinion in EU (especially France and Germany) and governments would be far less relaxed about the threats to society.

And the world would be different as 9/11 would likely not have happened while police and intelligence service elsewhere whould be forwarned in a serious manner. The focus of hate would then also have remained with EU. Possibly they (terrorists) would now be fighting another bear. Or better, two.

The rest is too stupid to react to. Since there are susposedly 50000 car deaths (there aren't that many in Germany) one shouldn't be bothered with a mere 100's victims of terrorism (as if these would settle for such limited numbers)???


BTW I am aware Strasbourg is in France, currently :)
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marc wrote:I am curious to know if anyone got any World Cup footage in Germany?
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I will not let an official stop me from going about law-abiding business...including taking a camera that might look strange to a sports event.

Often with a major event the broadcast rights are owned by a TV or produciton company...the ticket should state what your rights are with regard to photography. The norm is that it is permissable to shoot still and moving pictures provided you don't publish them.

Technically I should not have posted my brief Formula 1 shots to the internet...technically Bernie Ecclestone's company owns the rights to it and I should seek clearance through them....but there are no restrictions on my shooting film or video at a Formula One event for enjoyment in my own home.

However your mileage may vary...some TV companies may prefer you don't shoot moving image at all....in which case I simply tell the organisers of the event that I shall not buy a ticket for said event.
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marc wrote:I am curious to know if anyone got any World Cup footage in Germany?
Super8man has a nice anecdote on his site about how people filmed all games of a university football team and even how they filmed competitor's games to study patterns.

Times have changed for super-8. Now we would be pleased with one cartridge with Worldcup soccer exposed on it.
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aj wrote:The rest is too stupid to react to. Since there are susposedly 50000 car deaths (there aren't that many in Germany) one shouldn't be bothered with a mere 100's victims of terrorism (as if these would settle for such limited numbers)???
no need to get insulting, i just responded to a post where somebody said terrorism is a real danger in germany, to which i replied, depends on how you look at it. pesonally i find cars much more dangerous (says somebody who nearly got involved in a serious accident once)

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