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Hi all

I was going to venture into using these two film stocks, but where
does one get the negative developed, and for that matter where does one get a positive print made.

I found a place in australia that does a negative but it seems no print? Location can be from anywhere in the world.

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Andec Filmtechnik in Berlin is the only place I know that makes S8 prints from neg...

http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_s8_neg_pos.htm
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Nobody does the negative-positive thing in Super 8. Negative film is shot as original, and then transferred to video. Better quality than reversal. It's never intended for projection.
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Jim Carlile wrote:Nobody does the negative-positive thing in Super 8. Negative film is shot as original, and then transferred to video. Better quality than reversal. It's never intended for projection.
Well, a Super 8 positive makes sense if you're shooting with Vision 2 500T in a low light situation and you want to project your footage - most likely because you're incorporating it as a limited segment with a film shot on reversal and edited traditionally.

It would be interesting to know just how many S8 positive prints Andec makes each year, and what they're being used for.
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Jim Carlile wrote:Nobody does the negative-positive thing in Super 8. Negative film is shot as original, and then transferred to video. Better quality than reversal. It's never intended for projection.
Jim, you really need to check your facts.

Andec Filmtechnik in Berlin will take your super 8 neg and produce a super 8 postive for projection from it. I have used this service three times, others must use it.

However at present Andec are the only lab in the world offering this service.

Andec also process the neg films in their own lab.
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I agree with Reflex.

Unless you really have to have it for a projection it seems that tranfer would make much more sense.

As for Angus and his "Facts" the fact is that very few people shoot S8 neg with the intention of having it printed.

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Nigel wrote:As for Angus and his "Facts" the fact is that very few people shoot S8 neg with the intention of having it printed.
Probably because of the cost I'd imagine - I'd LOVE to shoot negative and project it but don't because I can't justify the cost.
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mattias wrote:when some people say nobody they mean few people and few people would disagree if anybody. nobody has sex with cows either, yet some do.

/matt
Thanks Mattias. :)

Andec is the only lab I have ever heard of that has ever made super 8 positives from negatives. Until a few years ago, the only negative film available was the old military and surveillance stocks. It's just never done. Where does he even get the print stock? There was never one in any catalog, at any time, during the last 40 years (trying to remember?) ....I don't even recall a DS8 negative-positive process... at one time long ago ECO was available in DS8 for commercial users but that even that was reversal.
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mattias wrote:when some people say nobody they mean few people and few people would disagree if anybody. nobody has sex with cows either, yet some do.
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guess nobody made prints from 8mm or 16mm either.

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Post by Ludwig Draser »

Hello .
Sorry, there this a lot of misunderstanding and wrong information on this forum regarding print materials .
1) There is no print material in color-reversal S8 or 16 mm avaible .
This service cant be offered from any company worldwide any longer.

2) Print material in color -positiv in S8 mm are possible to get , with some problems, but possible. There are some companies worldwide who can print 16 mm negative to Super 8 . We are at the moment the only one, who can print S8 mm negative to S8 mm positive in polyester and for a while also in acetat. The quality for that service are possible seems since Vision 2 material avaible. Prints from Surveillance stock are too grainy. Problem for printing negative are the facilities for timing and printing . Through some circumstances we have had tis possibility.

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Oh hell sorry if I assumed that "nobody does it" meant that...uh...."nobody does it".

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thanks all,

was interested in making a short with negative and then printing it and have a movie night with some mates. The effect of projecting a film has more effect than just watching it on tv.

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martin wrote:The effect of projecting a film has more effect than just watching it on tv.
watch out. mitch is out there. :-)

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