Super 16 projectors

[Patrick]

Once at a camera market, I saw a Super 16 projector which I would imagine would be an extremely rare item. Foolishly I can't even remember the company or brand of this machine...and I should have made a closer inspection of it at the time. Out of curiosity, were there many Super 16 projectors made? Which companies made them? And what sort of applications were they mainly used for?

To be honest, I am not even sure that this projector had a 'super 16' sized gate. It simply said 'Super 16' in prominent letters and numbers on the projector.

[BK]

I know that Siemens had a modified 16mm double band interlock S16 projector for previewing rushes or final finished edit with the seperate magnetic film soundtracks in sync.

Not many projects filmed on S16 are shown on a projector, it's either blown up to 35mm for theatrical release or transfer to tape for editing for tv broadcast hence there are very few S16 projectors.

Wonder if the German Bosch Bauer group made a projector as well?

Bill

[David M. Leugers]

You can get a JAN 16mm projector modified to show S-16mm, but of course there is no sound capability. ICECO in Miami can do the mod, last time I looked. One could easily modify there own JAN by carefully widening the gate and reducing the rollers in the area where the sound track on a normal 16mm print would be (the widened area creating the S-16mm image). I think for home DIY, another good one to modify would be the Kodak Pagaent. Get the later model with the updated lamp and you may get away without modifying the rollers since they are nylon and very film friendly...


David M. Leugers

[kentbulza]

I can't remember his name, but there's a guy in Canada with a company that manufactures Super 16 projectors, including some with endless loop capabilities, for museum installation. He will rent them too. I hope someone here can add the name and contact information.

[clivetobin]

Once at a camera market, I saw a Super 16 projector....

"Super" is sometimes used to indicate purported quality level instead of format.

Take the Pathe Super 16 for example, which might be a superb camera but is not super-16 format. Bell & Howell used to make a Super model 8mm projector which was for regular 8mm film not super-8.

[jpolzfuss]

I know that Siemens had a modified 16mm double band interlock S16 projector for previewing rushes or final finished edit with the seperate magnetic film soundtracks in sync.

Siemens sold their film-section (projectors,...) to Bauer in the late 60s. Hence Siemens built several 16mm-projectors, but never constructed a Super-16-projector, simply because the Super-16 wasn't invented back then.
Nevertheless the filmgate on most Siemens-projectors is easy to replace, hence you might have seen a Siemens-16mm-projector with a Non-Siemens-Super16-filmgate.

But yes, Siemens and Bauer sold several 16mm-projectors with an integrated, synchronized 16mm-perfotape-player.

Jörg