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Super 8 > Ink Jet = Magic!

Postby astro_tiki » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:48 pm

So there is this super nice guy here in Oregon who does wonderful/crazy video projects and he came up w/ a process to print video footage to transparencies using a deskjet printer. He calls it the England Printed Film Process. It looks pretty fly and I've been dying to try it. Only I'm gonna print some Flash animation I've done to regular 8 and run it as a film loop. Should be gloriously strange. Anyway, thought I'd pass along the link.

Jesse England -- England Printed Film Process
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Postby MoonstruckProductions » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:11 pm

That is really cool, although a littel laborous to cut out every single sprocket hole. It's too bad my daughter isn't old enough to use a box cutter... :)

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Postby MovieStuff » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:12 pm

I love it!

Looks like an old stag film from the 40's or something. But cutting out the sprocket holes by hand! YIKES!!!!!! 8O

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Postby wado1942 » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:18 pm

That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. So much work for a low resolution, short lived print. It's far easier, safer, faster and higher quality to reduce the contrast of a plasma screen and use the still shot function of a super-8 camera to transfer one frame at a time. I've done it with 35mm and had decent results.
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Postby mattias » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:24 pm

that's the coolest thing i've seen this year. i'm gonna have to try it, no doubt. people who think this is dumb, hint hint, should look at the clip again. if you can get that look using any other method i'd really love to hear about it.

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Postby wado1942 » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:32 pm

I know it's supposed to be low quality but really, you could do that a lot faster with video plugins.
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Postby mattias » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:36 pm

haha, good luck. there's absolutely no way you could.

(ok, that sounded a bit too arrogant, but i really think you're hallucinating)

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Postby MoonstruckProductions » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:40 pm

The only reason it looks like poor quality is because he used his home inkjet printer. I bet you could get some good results if you took your file to OfficeMax or Staples and used their color laser printers.
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Postby astro_tiki » Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:54 pm

My employer gave me a nice Tektronix Phaser 780 color laser printer because nobody here in the office wanted it -- It's like the size of a copier. Anyway, it has a transparency adapter that will accommodate tabloid plus sheets (13 x 19), so I'll try running those through. Jeez, I wonder if they even make transparency sheets that large?

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to cutting out all the sprocket holes. Maybe I can talk my girlfriend into helping?

On a totally unrelated note, I’ll probably try and copy some old Optigan organ discs as well using a similar process. I guess the guy from Sparkelhorse has been doing this successfully. If you don’t know about Optigan organs, check ‘em out. They’re low-fi fun.

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Postby wado1942 » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:01 pm

Well, again, it's supposed to be low-fidelity. If you wanted good quality, you'd either shoot film or shoot high quality video and stay video. But again, it's so much work to get a crappy image. You may not be able to get that exact look using other methods but what I'm saying is there's far better ways to spend your time than making a decent image unrecognizable by printing to a medium that'll only last for a few passes through a projector and hand cutting each sprocket hole by hand. Usually when people are spending that much time on something, it's to get a better image but even in that case, it isn't worth the time it would take.
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Postby Mitch Perkins » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:39 pm

astro_tiki wrote:
Yeah, I'm not looking forward to cutting out all the sprocket holes. Maybe I can talk my girlfriend into helping?



Could be accomplished at least a little quicker with the home-manufacture of a simple square punch. Practice on some "blanks"...

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Postby Ralph S » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:46 pm

You could use a ciro splicer to punch out the sprocket holes.
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Postby aj » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:37 pm

Maybe Paul C can use his puncher on this. Works in daylight and no long runs.
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Postby Scotness » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:55 pm

I reckon it's cool - should tun up in one of yor music clips Matt!

I don't tihnk I'd go to that much difficulty over it though -- there is one or two frames there that look like a photoshop filter - is it a mosaic or something - plus a fair bit of contrast, desaturation and lots of grungey dirt, noise and crap (don't know if there's a crap filter) - even the occasional moire pattern as well

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Postby Nigel » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:43 pm

Astro,

Let me know when you are going to screen this loop you have planned. I will get down to PDX to see it.

This looks pretty frickin' cool.

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